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Lynda,
Those are great suggestions! I drink water all day now out of habit.
I like it just plain and hadn't thought about "kicking it up a
notch". I can almost feel it cleansing my system. Oddly enough, I
even like to have warm water as a replacement for coffee sometimes.
It's comforting!

Justin

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003, Lynda Zollinger wrote:

> My thoughts on the soda topic:
>
> Soda prevents your body from absorbing vitamins and nutrients. Maybe
> knowing that your soda intake cancels out most of the benefits of 
the
> healthier foods you eat will help you think twice when you are making 
a
> decision whether or not to get your soda "fix".
>
> If you decide to drink the soda and gradually cut back, I'd go with 
the
> regular soda. There are too many health risks associated with the 
imitation
> sugars and the taste of the imitation stuff is much sweeter than sugar 
is.
>
> You can make water a ritual if that will help.
> *	Buy a pretty crystal wine glass or pretty tea cup and saucer that you 
use
> only for your water.
>
> *	Have lemon wedges prepared and available to squeeze into your water.
>
> *	Put a few cherries into your water or a few pieces of frozen fruit.
>
> *	Put juice into ice trays and use a few frozen juice cubes in your 
water.
>
> *	Get one of those cool drink stirers.
>
> *	Pamper yourself and put your feet up when you drink your water.
>
> You can make it as much of a ritual as you want it to be. Try it, you 
will
> feel MUCH better. :)
>
> Keep us posted on your progress.
>
> Lynda Zollinger
> Arizona
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reinhard Engels [mailto:beautiful_idiot@...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 8:27 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [nosdiet] Re: Greetings
>
>
> Hi Tammy,
>
> If you've been able to pull off no-s except for soda,
> you've got a firm foundation of willpower to stand on.
> Congratulations, and give yourself some credit!
>
> Now for the pop issue. As you suggest, pop isn't just
> pop. Psychologically, it's a lot more to many people.
> It's a break, a ritual, and a drug like cigarrettes.
> So we need to find you a surrogate, something to take
> it's place.
>
> These are the things pop does and the categories on
> which we'll have to evaluate a potential replacement:
>
> Health impact
> Ritual
> Drug appeal
>
> Water has a positive health impact, not much ritual,
> and no drug appeal. Cigarettes are wonderful for
> ritual and drug appeal but have a nasty tendency to
> kill you. Tea or coffee (easy on the sugar/cream, I
> drink mine black) do pretty well in every department.
> If that's not up your alley, diet drinks are probably
> better than non diet drinks, except 1) I'm suspicious
> about what the awful chemicals in there are going to
> do to you down the road and 2) the sweetness messes
> with the habit forming portion of your brain.
>
> So from best to worse:
>
> Water
> Tea (green, especially)
> Coffee (black)
> Diet Soda
> Sugar Soda
> Cigarrettes
> 12 gauge shotgun in mouth
>
> Go as far up the scale as you can... if diet soda is
> the best you can do right now then don't beat yourself
> up about it. Revisit the issue in a couple months when
> you've graduated to the next level of willpower.
>
> Reinhard
> --- daycare4mom <daycare4mom@...> wrote:
> > ---
> >
> > I know how Kevin feels. I am eating less, not to
> > many sweets, etc.
> > But pop its killing me. I dont smoke or anything so
> > dew is like my
> > nerve pill. HELP
> >
> >
> > Tammy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In , Reinhard Engels
> > <beautiful_idiot@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Keven,
> > >
> > > Congratulations on making it your first weekend,
> > even
> > > if it was only part of a week and there were some
> > > stretchers. If it takes a few days to find your
> > > stride, don't worry about it.
> > >
> > > Strictness is a tool, not an end in itself. But I
> > find
> > > that strictness makes it easier, and it's what I'd
> > > advise most people to try. I'm thrilled that
> > Teresa
> > > has lost weight using No-s, and I don't begrudge
> > her
> > > her few candy corns (congratulations, Teresa, and
> > > sorry for responding to two posts at once). But I
> > > personally would rather not have to worry about
> > "some"
> > > turning into "way too much." "No" is harder 
to
> > sneak
> > > up on. Do what works for you of course, and best
> > of
> > > luck.
> > >
> > > Reinhard
> > >
> > > --- Kevin Gooday <gravy@p...> wrote:
> > > > Well, at the mid point of day 2, let me tell you
> > a
> > > > bit more about my
> > > > "situation."
> > > > I work in the athletic department of a high
> > school.
> > > > I'm not a teacher, I'm
> > > > not a coach, I just do random stuff. I'm
> > basically
> > > > an assistant athletic
> > > > director, though this district doesn't
> > officially
> > > > have one. The point of
> > > > this, is I make dirt for money, but the
> > department
> > > > makes up for it by giving
> > > > me kick backs. Coke, which we stock the
> > machines
> > > > throughout the school, and
> > > > sell at sporting events, is mine for the taking
> > (and
> > > > Dasani water is what we
> > > > sell, which is the sodium containing
> > water...yuk).
> > > > This is kinda the point where it doesn't matter
> > if
> > > > I'm late, so long as I'm
> > > > in by the time school starts, I'm SUPPOSED to be
> > > > there a half hour ahead of
> > > > time.
> > > > Anyway...Yesterday I did well, until I realized
> > I
> > > > was going to dinner with
> > > > some old co-workers, we went to Baker's
> > > > Square...Couldn't pass up some pie,
> > > > so I kinda made it a special day, that was all I
> > did
> > > > though, no snacks, no
> > > > pop.
> > > > Today at work, first we get the concession stand
> > > > delivery in, so what do I
> > > > do for a half hour? Yeah, I stick M&M's and
> > > > Snickers on a shelf. That was
> > > > hard to pass up, but I made it. Then we get a
> > fund
> > > > raiser rep. in showing
> > > > us his different candy options, and since last
> > time
> > > > he came around, we got
> > > > him 2 of our coaches buying from him, he gave us
> > > > free samples...We each got
> > > > about 5 bags of M&M's. Wow, was it hard not
> > eating
> > > > them on the way home.
> > > > I'll save 'em for those S days though.
> > > > Right now, I'm hungry, and wanting a snack, so
> > I'm
> > > > gonna go mow the lawn. I
> > > > guess 2 good things will come about with this,
> > > > housework will get done too,
> > > > 'eh?
> > > > Thanks again for listening, and giving out this
> > > > whole idea.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > > > "I'm treading the thin line between fat and
> > phat."
> > > > -me
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Reinhard Engels" <beautiful_idiot@y...>
> > > > To: <>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:12 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [nosdiet] Greetings
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Kevin,
> > > > >
> > > > > Welcome and good luck! Here's my take on the
> > two
> > > > > issues you raise:
> > > > >
> > > > > As for the pop, nothing beats water,
> > obviously,
> > > > but
> > > > > you might want to consider tea as well. If you
> > > > have
> > > > > one of those hot water spigots at the cooler
> > it's
> > > > > fast, and if they give away pop, they probably
> > > > give
> > > > > away tea, too. If you are sensitive to
> > caffeine,
> > > > green
> > > > > tea is very weak and supposed to have all
> > kinds of
> > > > > health benefits. Herbal teas have no caffeine.
> > I'm
> > > > not
> > > > > crazy about tea, I prefer coffee, but it's
> > just so
> > > > > easy and less contentious in terms of health.
> > It's
> > > > > hot, so you drink it slow, and the little
> > ritual
> > > > with
> > > > > the tea bag seems to fulfill my "looking 
for
> > oral
> > > > > distraction" requirement.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for the pop-tarts/nutrigrain bars for
> > breakfast
> > > > > issue, I'm not a picky eater, and since my
> > wife
> > > > needs
> > > > > to get up way before I do, I tend not to be in
> > a
> > > > huge
> > > > > rush in the mornings. So I can't speak to your
> > > > problem
> > > > > from vast personal experience.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've always considered cold cereal pretty
> > quick,
> > > > but
> > > > > it sounds like you need to be out so fast
> > you're
> > > > > eating in the car... not the most conducive
> > > > > environment to cheerio consumption. You know,
> > 5
> > > > extra
> > > > > minutes might put cold cereal within striking
> > > > range.
> > > > > Would setting the alarm clock 5 minutes
> > earlier be
> > > > out
> > > > > of the question? Or could you keep a stash of
> > > > cereal
> > > > > and milk at work? Or do what I do, keep a
> > stash of
> > > > > oatmeal, nuts and dried fruit at work (though
> > I
> > > > > usually eat this for lunch). If you could do
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > > these it would expand your horizons
> > significantly.
> > > > > There are *a lot* of different kinds of low/no
> > > > sugar
> > > > > cereal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bread is also a big category - it's not just
> > > > toasted
> > > > > wonder or thomases english muffins. Mix it up
> > with
> > > > a
> > > > > different cheese and a different piece of
> > fruit
> > > > every
> > > > > morning and even the same old bread can seem
> > > > novel. I
> > > > > don't know your exact tastes in this
> > depeartment,
> > > > but
> > > > > spend some time seriously scoping out the
> > bakery,
> > > > > cheese and fruit sections are your
> > supermarket.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll wrack my brains about it a bit, but for
> > the
> > > > time
> > > > > being I'd suggest not letting this problem be
> > a
> > > > diet
> > > > > breaker for you. Pop tarts are clearly out.
> > But
> > > > > nutrigrain bars might be considered
> > temporarily
> > > > exempt
> > > > > until you can think of something less sugary.
> > > > After
> > > > > all, they are *marketed* as healthy, and all
> > > > things
> > > > > considered, are probably less awful for you
> > than
> > > > pop
> > > > > tarts. Emphasis on 'temporary,' and don't let
> > it
> > > > be
> > > > > every day. Hopefully you'll get enough
> > > > alternatives
> > > > > suggested here in this group (and by the
> > mother of
> > > > > invention) that you won't have to resort to
> > this
> > > > > often/at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reinhard
> > > > >
> > > > > --- General Gravy <gravy@p...> wrote:
> > > > > > I stumbled upon this site today through ask
> > > > jeeves.
> > > > > > I don't remember
> > > > > > the question I had, but it wasn't even about
> > > > weight
> > > > > > loss. I decided
> > > > > > that this may very well be the way I've been
> > > > looking
> > > > > > for to loose
> > > > > > weight all this time. I've gained ~60
> > pounds in
> > > > the
> > > > > > last 4 years,
> > > > > > most being in the last 2 years. The other
> > night
> > > > I
> > > > > > decided I was
> > > > > > going to stop drinking pop like I do...Which
> > is
> > > > > > constantly. It's
> > > > > > hard since I get it free at work, and the
> > > > bottled
> > > > > > water here has a
> > > > > > significant amount of sodium, so you just
> > end up
> > > > > > more thirsty after
> > > > > > drinking it, but I'm gonna do it. This is
> > just
> > > > one
> > > > > > step up for me,
> > > > > > and I'm pretty sure I can handle most of 
it
> > > > right
> > > > > > off the bat, and
> > > > > > all of it soon. Thanks for making this
> > > > availible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now for a question that I know has been
> > > > addressed,
> > > > > > but not "to my
> > > > > > satisfaction." Breakfast, I wake up
> > litterally
> > > > 2
> > > > > > minutes before I'm
> > > > > > supposed to be at work, and it's a 20 minute
> > > > drive.
> > > > > > (yes I'm late
> > > > > > every day, but that's a whole 'nother story)
> > > > > > Nutrigrain bars and pop
> > > > > > tarts have been a Godsend to me. Not only
> > that
> > > > but
> > > > > > I'm a VERY picky
> > > > > > eater, and most common breakfast foods are
> > not
> > > > to my
> > > > > > liking. I do
> > > > > > love a good bowl of Cheerios or something
> > like
> > > > that,
> > > > > > but I frankly
> > > > > > don't have the time for them. Toast is
> > great,
> > > > > > english muffins
> > > > > > too...but every day? I don't think I'd like
> > > > > > that...Any other ideas
> > > > > > out there...Maybe there was some of this
> > > > addressed,
> > > > > > and I either
> > > > > > glanced over it or missed it in the archive,
> > > > sorry
> > > > > > if it is just a
> > > > > > repeat. Thanks for the help!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > >
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