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Hi Reinhard,

Exactly my problem. I try not to start now. once I start, there is no
shut-off valve. I was not like that before. But i thk i developed
this habit since I started stressed under about a year back. And it is
unconcious or subconcious. I noticed it only recently. When i was not
stressed, I didn't have to eat. My question is: Does it matter what
the cause for overeating is? Do we have to get to the root of the
problem or we can just use the noSdiet to guide us into changing to
better habits?

And i hate eating socially now as i can't eat the way i want to. So
you are rite on the nail, Reinhard.

I will take your adivce. no seconds. And some of my friends always
tell themselves they are very full, even after eating very little.
Maybe that's a very good trick?!

And Purpledy1, how long does it take you to get to where you are? Do
you eat regularly? I mean 3 meals a day?

Recently i developed a habit of eating very little in the day and have
a very big vegetarian dinner in the evening. Is that acceptable? Would
like to hear from you!

I am glad that I have a group for support. I think I can change to be
better now.

-- tze

----- Original Message -----
From: Reinhard Engels <beautiful_idiot@...>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 04:42:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [nosdiet] Welcome tze; right on Melanie
To: 


Welcome, Tze.

Seconds were my big problem too. By nature (or years
of bad habits) I didn't have a shut off valve once I
got started. Big firsts were the key to weaning myself
off seconds. Once I had that down, it was relatively
easy to scale down the portions. Social eating helps
here: the fact that you've put so much on your plate
is embarrassing (never mind that you used to eat much
more in multiple servings), and embarrassment is a
*very* potent incentive.

Melanie, if your follow-through is anywhere near as
good as your perception is clear, I'm not worried
about you at all. You hit it on the nail here:

"NoS isn't about willpower versus habit, it's about
using your willpower to change bad habits into better
habits."

Remember the elephant tamer analogy.

Good luck you both, and keep these posts coming,

Reinhard


--- tzemin <tzemin@...> wrote:
> Hi Purpledy1 and All,
> 
> Thanks so much. Yesterday i tot no second plate is
> the hardest to do
> but today, i thk all of them are equally hard. i m
> taking more and
> more sweet stuff, natural it may be but still...
> 
> Lucily I don't drink coffee, ever since the first
> time i tried it when
> i was alittle kid, many many years ago. After
> reading your mail, i
> have resolute to go out n get some carrots and beet
> roots and apples
> to make a salad.
> 
> But thanks for the positive reinforcement. I will
> work on it bit by
> bit, hopefully i can get to the BIT stage! will
> power -> better
> habit. way to go!
> 
> I need alot of peer support. So pl keep your
> feedback coming!
> 
> -- tze
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: purpleldy1 <purpleldy1@...>
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 22:06:39 -0000
> Subject: [nosdiet] Re: So true, the three Ss
> To: 
> 
> 
> I can't say I am already there, but I am getting
> better. Just
> remember to tell yourself you don't have to be
> perfect you just have
> to be better. Just remember with the whole habit
> thing, NoS is'nt
> about willpower versus habit it's about using your
> willpower to change
> bad habits into better habits. Just remember if you
> have a HABIT and
> you get rid of part you still have ABIT. If you get
> rid of still more
> you still have that BIT you can get rid of even more
> but you still
> have IT. So exchange the HABIT for something else. 
> If drinking the
> honey water is a problem on No S days just drink
> water. Save all
> sweets even if they are natural sweets for your S
> days. If your a
> coffee drinking I can not advise you on that one I
> have never touched
> the stuff myself. I did read somewhere though, the
> enzymes in a
> single apple have the same wake-up power of 2 or
> more cups of coffee.
> I can not judge that to be true but it does perk me
> up to have an
> apple with my breakfast or lunch when I am really
> dragging. Best of
> luck to you. Your friend in health Melanie 
> 
> 
> --- In , "tzeminchung"
> <tzemin@g...> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> > 
> > I m new here. But i really like the noSdiet
> system. Because it is 
> > something I tried n tried to do but alas,... 
> > 
> > Will power vs habits
> > 
> > My version: will power + some distraction + some
> "I am very full now" 
> > + don't start eating + drink diluted soya or honey
> water.
> > 
> > Is it playing games with the mind, play it not a
> day, two days. A 
> > life time?! 
> > 
> > Or it is changing habits so we don't need to play
> games anymore?
> > 
> > For those who are already there, pl enlighten me!
> Struggling alone is 
> > no fun!
> > 
> > -- tze
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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