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Subject: Re: [nosdiet] Re: keeping the sabbath
From: Reinhard Engels
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 17:05:28 -0700 (PDT)
    
Hi Kitrin,

I don't think Melanie was intending to "preach,"
though I understand why you might think so. I don't
ask that people hide or compartmentalize their
religious views (or lack of them), but let's be civil,
OK? The last thing anyone wants to read about here is
a religious war. I've heard they get even uglier than
wars about aspartame. Melanie, this might be a good
time to turn the other cheek and not respond...

Sincerely hoping this thread ends here,

Reinhard

--- kitrin1970 <kitrin1970@...> wrote:
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> --- In , "mygoal135"
> <mygoal135@y...> wrote:
> > D's posting with this subject line had little to
> do with religion. 
> > this one does. if you are thoroughly convinced of
> the lack of a 
> god 
> > or the inefficacy of prayer, then you can
> blissfully ignore the 
> rest 
> > of this post. i think the majority of you may
> benefit from it. 
> > some people can drop a few pounds successfully by
> "putting their 
> > mind to it." i have relatively few pounds to
> lose, but my weight 
> is 
> > an issue that has plagued me for years. i've also
> got youth on my 
> > side. i came to the conclusion awhile back that i
> am incapable of 
> > losing this weight by my own strength. for those
> with a lot more 
> > weight to lose and who have ingrained bad habits a
> lot longer than 
> i 
> > have, i can imagine that you would find it even
> more difficult. if 
> > you look at any 12 step program- AA, overeaters
> anonymous, etc., 
> the 
> > first step, i think, is to acknowledge your
> dependence on a higher 
> > power. i expect that even with complete faith and
> openness to God, 
> > the process will still be trying and long. 
> although i am not 
> > yet a weight-loss "success story," i have seen
> prayer work in 
> > amazing ways in other parts of my life. i am
> actually greatful for 
> > this particular struggle, because it forced me to
> turn to God and i 
> > am more committed to my faith. maybe it was part
> of His plan. 
> > maybe not. give prayer a try. i don't think Zeus
> will strike you 
> > down with a thunderbolt for asking.
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> In my reply I was trying to find something I could
> compare the need 
> for flexibility to and was expressing why and how i
> had to flex my S 
> days.
> If I really wanted to be preached at about prayer
> and my weight at 
> the same time I would have called my mother thank
> you very much.. I 
> am sure YOUR beliefs are fine for YOU but I do not
> come to this group 
> for prayer advice. I came here to lose weight which
> I am doing since 
> I stick to the basics and do not try to complicate
> myself in calorie 
> counts and fat grams and what is a healthy snack. I 
> eat my three 
> squares a day and none of them involve " grace
> before meals".
> This does not make me an ungrateful person; just my
> beliefs and 
> theories on the world do not mesh with yours and I
> will thank you 
> very much to not preach at me anymore
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