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i had dinner a few years ago with a friend from Itally.. he was irate about the 
portions of the meals that were served he said it would feed a whole family in his 
country
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Hana Rous 
To:  
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nosdiet] Re:NoDiet again, Many Welcomes (some back)


On my one short visit to the USA I found the plates and portions to be 
so
big, my mother and I shared meals. It's getting that way in Britain now 
too.
Hana
----- Original Message -----
From: "Reinhard Engels" <beautiful_idiot@...>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nosdiet] Re:NoDiet again, Many Welcomes (some back)


> I've found that social eating, the bane of most other
> diets, is the best way of ensuring portion control on
> this one. You only get one plate, so to pack it away,
> that plate has to be pretty big. The funny looks and
> comments you'll get if you pile it high are more
> effective than any special plate.
>
> I don't mean to knock the advice Hana gives (which is
> very sensible), just to point out another,
> complementary way of approaching the problem.
>
> Reinhard
>
> --- Hana Rous <ana@...> wrote:
> > Portion size seems to be a useful key. I saw
> > something on a TV programme
> > once, which showed a plate with a design inside the
> > central part and another
> > on the rim.The idea was "you may cover the central
> > pattern with food, but
> > not the rim." I personally have plain white plates,
> > but keep my portions of
> > everything except steamed veggies to the centre of
> > the plate and it's
> > working for me.
> > Hana
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "sophistliberale" <sophistliberale@...>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:44 AM
> > Subject: [nosdiet] Re:NoDiet again, Many Welcomes
> > (some back)
> >
> >
> > > Wow, thanks for all the responses guys! True,
> > sometimes I tend to
> > > get a bit impatient (hehe). Anyway, as for the
> > warrior diet question
> > > and why I like the philosophy:
> > >
> > > Basically, a few reasons
> > >
> > > 1. The ultimate aim is to limit total daily
> > caloric intake to 1
> > > sitting. And for someone like me, who can be
> > "good" all day if he
> > > knows a good dinner is on the way, that is a
> > godsend.
> > >
> > > 2. I live at home with my family, and coming home,
> > a good Indian
> > > dinner is always ready (and is pretty nutritious)
> > so I don't have to
> > > worry bout constantly eating the wrong kind of
> > food on this diet.
> > >
> > > 3. I enjoyed feeling light on my feet and not
> > having an excuse to be
> > > lazy (the approach of mealtime sometimes tends to
> > do that to me)
> > > throughout the day since I work at an Investment
> > Bank.
> > >
> > > HOWEVER, there are a few reasons why I chose the
> > NoSdiet instead:
> > >
> > > 1. I am not what you call a consistent person in
> > much of anything. I
> > > have the all or nothing mentality. Thankfully, up
> > until now,
> > > the "all" phases in my life have balanced the
> > "nothing" phases in my
> > > life in terms of fitness and gotten me to 170 lbs.
> > But I know I could
> > > have already reached my goals if I had not been so
> > extreme. The
> > > warrior diet, I fear, might just enhance my
> > extreme nature towards
> > > diet and I don't want that. I want to be able to
> > adhere to a plan
> > > centered on moderation with some rules, like the
> > NoSdiet. Then, when
> > > I am ready, mebbe I can switch to the Warrior
> > diet.
> > >
> > > 2. I fear the physiological effects of the WD. I
> > think that people
> > > who are overweight are more sensitive to storing
> > extra calories
> > > ingested in one meal as fat then slim people. To
> > that end, I think
> > > the WD would be better as a maintenance type of
> > diet once you reach
> > > the weight you want.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Reinhard,
> > >
> > > The main problem I have with "maybe" overeating 
is
> > that in my case,
> > > it's not so obvious. The problem is mostly
> > centered around dinner.
> > > That is where the "no seconds" part is harder 
for
> > me. The type of
> > > food I eat is vegetarian and not too fatty, so the
> > calories are less.
> > > The problem is that I can't not have seconds
> > unless I absolutely cram
> > > my plate with food the first time! However, it's
> > slowly getting
> > > easier to guage how much I need so that the next
> > day, I am not
> > > starving but not stuffed either. I am also working
> > out daily so that
> > > tempers this problem a bit until I get a handle on
> > it.
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