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Hi Deb,

Good question. My rule is (to violate a registered
trademark) that if it's a "soup that eats like a
meal," then that's your plate. Example: a big old
lentil or pea soup with hocks of ham. Especially if
you've got bread and what not on the side. If it's a
more retrained soup, then use the "virtual fruit"
rule: eat the soup in a separate bowl but just make
sure to adjust your subsequent portions accordingly,
either use a smaller plate or leave a patch of plate
clear. 

The "virtual fruit" rule:

"Strict doesn't
necessarily mean putting the fruit on same physical
plate (that's a little barbarous) but it means
reducing your other portions so that it *could* fit on
your plate."

From:

http://nosdiet.com/group/698

Have trouble imagining how much space a "virtual soup"
should take up? Imagine it frozen. Can't handle it?
Then I'm afraid I'm going to have to advise fence
around the law literalism. But I can't imagine this
should be much of a problem for most people.

Reinhard

--- gratefuldeb67 <deborahfederlmt@...> wrote:

> 
> Hi Reinhard and all :)
> I know that No S is supposed to be flexible yet
> strict on some basic 
> rules...I think I have encountered an everyday
> problem, which as the 
> months get cooler, will become even more "everyday"
> (esp with flu 
> season etc...)
> Here's my little conundrum...I like to have soup for
> lunch or 
> dinner, along with either a salad or sandwich...This
> is not 
> something I can do using the "One physical plate"
> rule...Okay, maybe 
> I have to give up soup, or just combine my salad and
> soup (boy would 
> that be messy)
> Help me Reinhard or anyone else...I really don't
> want to cheat this 
> system...Is there any loophole or provision for
> soup? Or do I have 
> to adhere to a fourth, NO S "Fence" law, "No
> S...oup", in order to 
> adhere to the 3 Commandments of No S?
> If the answer is, to make the portion really smaller
> on one of the 
> two courses, I will do this...
> Soup to me is very filling and comforting, but I
> don't want to fool 
> myself into thinking that this is ok, unless
> approved from a "higher 
> authority" :)
> Fondly,
> Debbie
> PS FYI...The "Fence" Laws are the extra rules in
> Orthodox Judaism, 
> which are the first line of defense to protect
> against breaking any 
> of the over 600 Biblical Laws...EG: One of the
> Biblical Laws 
> is "Thou Shalt Not Cook a Calf in Her Mothers Milk",
> in order to 
> ensure that no one break this rule, a "Fence" rule
> was created later 
> which states that one shouldn't eat meat with dairy,
> then it 
> eliminates the rare possibility of boiling a child
> in it's own 
> mothers milk, a gruesome idea to be sure...I really
> never even 
> understood this rule of keeping dairy and meat
> separate until I 
> looked into the whole "Fence Laws" explanation...I
> wasn't raised 
> orthodox, but I do really love Chicken Soup :) Okay
> so there's the 
> info on Fence Laws which are there so as not to
> break those original 
> Biblical Laws from, I think mainly, the Book of
> Deuteronomy...I am 
> not Kosher, but I do want to keep "kosher" with No S
> :)