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If your bodyfat is higher than about 12% for a man or
20% for a woman (very approximate, depends on your
genetic fat-storage tendencies--i.e. waist vs. hips
aka "apple vs. pear" or android vs. gynoid) you're not
going to have abs, period. So before you bother with
isolation exercises, you should focus on the basics
while cutting your bodyfat low enough. If you get down
to a low enough bodyfat, and you still don't have
defined abs (look at a marathon runner for an example
of this) you need to work on building up the
neuromuscular tone (and maybe a bit of
hypertrophy--i.e. size building--so they pop out a bit
more). Then they'll pop. 

Until you're a low enough bodyfat percentage, no
amount of situps, bicycles, reverse crunches, etc. is
going to make your abs show. That's the bottom line.
Once you get low enough, then it's time to start
thinking that way. In terms of getting your bodyfat
percentage lower, Shovelglove is a good solution
(along with Urban Ranger and NOS) and will strengthen
your abs somewhat while you're getting there.

I hope that clears things up.

Dan 

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